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Got a great suggestion for a neighbourhood name? Post it here!What do you call our neighbourhood? How do others in the city refer to it? What is your preference for an "official" neighbourhood name, and why? This is the spot to leave your answers to these and any other questions that come to mind about names for our community. Check back regularly to see if others have posted opinions about your suggestions, and feel free to post your thoughts about theirs. Whether you’re new to the neighbourhood, a seasoned resident, or somewhere in between, your ideas count.
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The Collision District
The Collision District. Why? Because there are so many auto repair shops in the area.
Dovercourt Boys and Girls Club Summer Camp Favourite Name
After all 48 name suggestions were presented and discussed, the campers at the Dovercourt Boys and Girls Club (Perth Outreach location) voted overwhelmingly for "P-Block".
It was great to hear the kids talking about the neighbourhood and their enthusiasm for giving the area a name. Many thanks to the campers and staff at the club for their time!
p-block, sweet perth etc.
I love it. Lots of originality there! I like Big Bannana with two n's and am very curious about Private Block.... Interestingly my quick scan didn't pick up on anything rail-related, triangular or junctiony. How old were the kids and what did they think of the idea?
Boys and Girls Club Favourite P-Block
Can't let the kids take the fall for banana with two n's, that was my typo. The campers were between the ages of 7-16 years old. They seemed to really like the idea of giving the neighbourhood a name and had a lot of fun coming up with ideas.
I bumped into someone later who is working on the new mural under the Dupont/Dundas rail bridges who grew up on Perth. He said he knew the area as p-block and a lot of his friends use the name.
Pee-Block
When I told William about P-Block being the B&G fave, his reply was "that's not good". Pause. I responded, "It's P-Block not P-E-E-Block. The letter P." William, "Oh".
Maybe we should rethink that, similar to "The Wedge" to "The Wedgie" thing that was brought up in an earlier discussion. ;-)
pee-block
Hilarious. William is definitely the father of a young child. I wonder what kids would think if we actually did adopt "their" name. Suspect they would then feel the need to come up with another one.... But I'm intrigued by the fact they have one, or actually two, as I think some of the kids at the first public meeting called it Pelham, yes? She seemed to imply that among that age group, neighbourhoods were often named after their parks, since the park is a main hangout.
Happy
It sounds like this went very well in terms of getting kids to participate. Thank you.
Dovercourt Boys and Girls Club Summer Camp Name Ideas
The Dovercourt Boys and Girls Club Summer Camp (Perth Outreach location) included the naming project in their program today. After a short presentation about the project, the campers divided into groups and developed name ideas. Here is the list of names they developed:
La rue de Perth
L'Avenue de Perth
Pecanino Portugal
Perth Avenue Square
Big Bannana (similar to the Big Apple)
Treesville
Toronto's Community
Peaceful Avenue
The Kids Centre
Pleasant View
Perth Block
The Community
St. Davenport Avenue
Percy Avenue
Perth Avenue
Corner Avenue
Perthsville
St. Perth Avenue
Private Avenue
Private Block
Dovercourt-Perth
Crescent Avenue
Cherry Avenue
Shedden
Sheddonia
Sheddenville
Perth Square
Kids on the Block
Sweet Perth
Hometrail
Crossways
Old Shedding
Ourtown
P-Block - because all the kids call it that
Forgotten Neighbourhood - because many people forget about the place where we live
Fuzzy Hood
Rec
The Ultimate Community
Dupont Railpath
I like the names that have Rail in them for some reason and as Dupont seems to be one of the main streets in our area....why not Dupont Railpath? I know some people may not like having Dupont in the name as it was not the original streetname, but fact is, I never knew it as anything but Dupont and it is a fairly busy artery of the city - especially with the new bike lanes!!
rail names
I also like names that have rail in them, or make some sort of reference to the tracks. Did anyone suggest Railside yet?
Train Related Names
Keeping with the train theme and some earlier suggestions, how about Trainstead? Or The Rail Commons?
A Bit of Both
For people define the neighbourhood as "close to Roncesvalles" or "East of the Junction" etc., how about a combination name "Ronction"? I believe that Jill Dempsey on CBC Radio first made the suggestion half-jokingly.
The Junctioneer News Blog
The Junctioneer news blog is featuring the latest Fuzzy Boundaries outreach initiative. On Tuesday, July 14th, the Dovercourt Boys and Girls Club Summer Camp (Perth Outreach location) is including the naming project in their program. Campers will be discussing the project, making name suggestions and voting on their favourite idea. You can checkout the Junctioneer post at http://breakingprojects.com/junctioneer/?p=4652
All of the campers' name suggestions will be featured on the Fuzzy site after the event and we will let you know which name received the most votes.
Once you decide on a name, how will you get to residents/media
The question is once you come up with a name, how do you get residents, media and others to reconize that??? I have read and heard many times, once somethings happens in this community, we are reconize as Lansdown and bloor area. It really defeats the purpose for all this name change, if others don't know what this community is called.
Maybe the City can put the name of the community, once one is decided , right below the names of each street, like other communities have in Toronto.
FYI,An example on helping others to choose a name. I belong to the CPLC(community police liaison committee) for the 11 division for the past 8 years and we recently came up with a logo for our committee, by dividing the 11 division into four chuncks n/e/s/w. So we took things that are very visual or symbolic in each quadrants and incorperated that in the logo. For example highpark,the rails and so on. Hopefully the next meeting I can bring a copy of the logo. We break for the summer, we don't meet till september. I personally like the Junction Triangel, as we are surrounded by rails. This community has lots of history, good and bad. I know when we have friends or relatives come over, the first thing they notice is the rails that we are surrounded by, not to metion other stuff that are visual, like the water tower, wallace bridge and so forth. Jack
Name Adoption
Jack, the question of how to get people to recognize the final outcome of the naming project is connected directly to the process itself - it needs to be (and seen as) open, inclusive and transparent. We need to reach out and engage as many people as possible. Awareness and participation are the key factors in the accepting the outcome. Everyone needs to be given an opportunity to contribute their ideas and comments - school kids to seniors, homeowners and renters, local businesses, business people working in the neighbourhood and so on. Something short of this objective, and people will have reason to not accept the final name outcome.
We have had some luck getting media coverage for the intiative and by the time the process is complete, we think all of the Toronto area media outlets will know about the project (even if they haven't reported on it).
Councillor Giambone and his staff have been very supportive and I know that they will help us get the City to adapt the name and "institutionalize it" wherever possible.
And while some people dislike real estate agents, if they accept and adopt the name selection, it will go a long way in helping the name stick. From our intitial efforts, we have found a number of agents who are very supportive of this community initiative and that points to a postive outcome.
And as always, if anyone has comments, concerns or just wants to vent, we are listening.
What's in a Name?
Carlton Park
The Tracks
Black Oak North*
Savannah North*
*(the park along the tracks from Annette to Bloor is an initiative to re-establish what was part of the Black Oak Savannah associated with High Park. Who knew. Is anyone familiar or in touch with this initiative? I would love to be involved. It needs wider sidewalks and better lighting).
If You Mean
If you mean the grassed area that runs along the east side of Dundas, I believe there is a garden group dedicated to taking care of this project. There is a plaque with the group's name just north of the Wallace Street bridge on Dundas that might help you.
Are we situated on a hill?
Black Oak Hill?
Junction Hill?
Five Most Recent Suggestions
Junction Central
Roncesvalles Valley
Tristead
Junction Triangle
New Amsterdam
You'll find all these names in the blog discussion. See something you like? Got a better idea? We are interested to hear your comments.
New York Relinguished the Name
We are not situated below sea-level, there are no canals in the area and we're not overrun with tourists, but if I could name the neighbourhood after one of my favourite places, I would call it New Amsterdam. : )
Library Suggestion Box
From the library suggestion box, Lee-Anne MacDonald says, "It always was the Junction Triangle, let's keep it that way!"
About the Borders
Found this piece on Wikipedia which indicates that the south end of the triangle (our presumed boundaries) was actually a part of Brockton Village:
"In March 1812, Lot 30 in York Township, a 100 acres (40 ha) parcel of land, was granted to James Brock, the cousin of Sir Isaac Brock along with other parcels of land. This lot was a strip of land that stretched from Lot Street, today's Queen Street, north to Bloor Street, west of Dufferin Avenue. After Brock died, his widow Lucy Brock inherited his estate and she began selling the lands that Brock owned... The developed area of Brockton grew to border High Park on the west, Dufferin (then the border of Toronto) on the east, Bloor on the north and the rail-lines to the south-west by the time it was incorporated as a village in 1876. It became an incorporated town in 1881. The incorporated town only lasted three years before it was annexed by the City of Toronto in 1884."
Canada Day Name Tally
Here is a list of all 61 names suggested so far (some are clearly intended to add some levity). Got a comment? Want to add a suggestion? Did we miss something? We welcome your thoughts.
South Junction Triangle
Junctionville
Junctiondale
Junctioncourt
West Junction Village
Junctionton
The Junc
The Junction Annex
Junctionvalles
The Triangle
St. Junctionton
The West Junctiondalecourt Village Triangle
Junction Park
Junction Village
Bloor Junction
South Junction
Bloor Dundas West Village
Dundas West Village
Perth-Royce District
Royce Junction
Junction Triangle
Shedden Village
Shedden Park
West Toronto Junction
West Toronto Annex
East Junction
Railtown
SOJU (South Junction pronounced SO-HU)
SOJUTA (stands for South Junction Triangle Area pronounced SO-HU-TA)
TRISODA (Triangle south of Davenport)
DABLOTRAX (DAvenport to the north, BLOor to the south and TRAcks on either side)
JUNCTRAX
COOLTRAX
DUNDAVENBLOOMINGTON
JUNCTIA
RAILTRAX
Railside
Rail Triangle
Railway Triangle
TRIBEDA (Triangle Below Davenport)
The Wedge
Builder Box
North-West Triangle
The Inner Corner
Innerton
Entrails Trails
Solvent Green
Falus Village
Sol Ways
Metro Links
Value Village Village
The Gore
The Railpath
Roncesvalles North
North Roncy
Parkdale Heights
Junction Summit
Junction View
Junction Central
Roncesvalles Valley
Tristead
Name Extension Possibilities
After reading the neighbourhood boundaries article that Marcel mentions in his mapping comments http://www.directionsmag.com/article.php?article_id=2944, Junction Central came to mind. Would Roncesvales Valley be a stretch? Or perhaps we could meet Scott and CK halfway with Tristead.
Wedgie
Scott, there is no doubt that the "Wedge" is an original name. I wonder how long it would take before it became a derisive term and we were called "The Wedgie"?
I also wonder if the name "Junction Triangle" fails to create a unique identity for our neighbourhood and properly distinguish us from "The Junction." If we are going to simply be a name extension of an existing neighbourhood, why not Roncesvalles North or North Roncy? The area has more cache and has not been plagued by a steady stream of news stories about the "neighbours from hell."
I prefer "Parkdale Heights".
I prefer "Parkdale Heights".
If it's about positioning
If it's about positioning ourselves above existing neighbourhoods, let's aim higher. How about Junction Summit or Junction View?
I prefer "Parkdale Heights".
I prefer "Parkdale Heights".
Thoughts so far
I would vote for Junction Triangle.
South Junction Triangle I would not vote for as I don't think the name should be a double reference to another area.
There have been some good attempts at names but so far nothing has seemed groovy enough or respectful enough. The historical stuff like Shedden seems too far in the past; I am wondering why I am not hearing versions of "Royce-Dupont" which at least lasted until a few decades ago. Its too bad that "Chuvalo" would not win. : )
The invented names based on the Tribeca model don't' do much for me as I prefer real words connected to real places. Why do all this research and then just invent a name out of thin air?
No Villages. We already are swamped with phony villages. Lets not make it easy for Toronto Life Magazine. But a word that could take the place of village could be cool such as...
________ Precinct
________ Commons
________ stead
First Nations people used Davenport as a trail for a long long time but other than that there really is no direct Aboriginal name or connection that won't in the end wont be patronizing. I have many First Nation friends in the area and none of them thought an Aboriginal name made any sense, none could even think of what that name would be.
Railtown to me sounds noisy and polluted like a shunting yard. Its sounds like a place were your mom said to stay away from. Its true that rail has shaped us but I wonder whether it truly defines us anymore. With the way things are going with GO maybe it could be Commuter Town as most of the rail bypasses us whereas previously it feed the factories among us.
Of all the other names I have seen I like the "Wedge" as it is short and cheeky and refers to our shape but is not a reference to rail lines. A wedge is something that gets in the way and I think a wedge rejects the average and dares to be different. Wedge would certainly catch on and be original.
The Railpath
If we consider that the West Toronto Railpath is a new, prominent feature of our neighbourhood and that we are surrounded by rail lines on all sides, why not The Railpath as a name?
Five Most Recent Name Suggestions
South Junction Triangle
The Triangle
Railtown
The Gore
Value Village Village
You'll find all these names in the blog discussion. See something you like? Got a better idea? We are interested to hear your comments.
The Gore
Some of the original name suggestions that are coming forward are quite amazing. I met someone yesterday during the rainy 'unofficial' opening of the Railpath who suggested we call the neighbourhood "The Gore." While the word "gore" has a few meanings, several of them mentioned in the Canadian Oxford Dictionary indicate this idea is not so far off - a wedge-shaped piece of a garment; a triangular or tapering piece of an umbrella; a small strip or tract of land between larger divisions such as townships.
Gore Park
Interesting idea. Hamilton has a wedge-shaped Gore Park in the middle of downtown.
gore too gory
Gore is too gory for my liking. The Wedge is too edgy. I still like The Triangle, because it pays homage to the earlier name but leaves off Junction; because the shape of our neighbourhood is such a recognizable feature on a map; because it's simple and catchy (so people will use it). I might also be swayed by Railtown....
If and when a name is decided we can deal with other issues
It's great to see people communicating, I just hope that once a name is decided by the community, we can deal with the issue's effecting this community/residents. Eg: Poverty, hungry, crime, polution, literacy, a very high, high school drop out rate and the lack of transparcey from our elected officals. Some of these issues have been ignored for years, from all 3 levels of government. A group of us have been meeting for a couple of months and will let everyone know about a breafast program for children Jr k- grade 6, free breakfast at a venue in our catchment area in the triangle. A change of name is fine as long as everyone agrees, and it seems many are involved and talking. I don't think that a name change will change the meat and potatoe of thing, the issue's that is effecting this community??? Thax Jack
Other Issues
Thanks for your interesting comments Jack. I look forward to learning more about your plans for a breakfast program. Hungry children don't make good students.
The naming project, as you note, has got a lot of people in the neighbourhood talking and thinking about the area. As your breakfast program shows however, it does not prevent anyone from taking initiative and doing things to improve the neighbourhood. There are many issues and opportunities for our neighbourhood. No one needs to wait for us!
There are more positives in the area than negatives
There are more positives in the area than negatives and healthy positive initiatives like this help lead to a happy community by bringing people together. I personally don't subscribe to the doom and gloom vision of our community because I see a lot of optimism and ideas from all sorts of residents.
I also see a lot of support from the City in terms of things like Railpath, the bike lanes on Dupont, new trees, sidewalk improvements, a new Police station, support for Big On Bloor, the continued funding of our cool Library and many other projects; all things that make the area healthier.
I am sensing a new wave of optimism based on tangible changes that are improving the area. Residents have different causes or things that they wish to improve and I think things like Fuzzy have a role to play in making the area better for everyone.
Things that I mentioned in my last comments were hidden issues
Hey Scott, agreed lots of good things have happened, but stuff that I mentioned are hidden issues that need to be addressed, bike lanes, Big on Bloor, trees and the other stuff are important, but aren't going to feed the hungry children in the neighbourhood, who might be our next door neighbours, who might be going to bed with no food, sometimes we don't see it because it' not in our homes or directly effected by it. It also might not be of a priority or interest to someone, but it's out there along with the other issues that I mentioned. These are social issues and are part of our community if we like it or not. It's unfortunate that it has manifested to the point to where it is right now, I feel it gets the lack of attention or priority. It's my opinion and belief I feel sometimes that politician choose to ignore these issues or not want to speak about it, because it might reflect on them. You can only do so much comsmetic until the real stuff is going to show. Anyhow, I don't what to change or take away from the postitive thing that has been happening with the name change. Thanks Jack
Fair enough Jack. I don't
Fair enough Jack. I don't think anybody in out area wants children to go to bed or school hungry. If there things that I can do pass on the word.
me too
Jack, count me as a third, with Kevin and Scott, who'd like to be kept in the loop about the breakfast program. Maybe we can help somehow. The naming project is just one of many worthy things going on in the community.
Yes, me too, too
Jack, you can add me to the loop about the breakfast program. I'd love to help out with that too. There are thousands of people in this area and more than enough room for everyone's initiatives -- all for the good of the greater community.
P.S. Where is the login tab? It won't let me post up unless I change my name and email address because I'm already a registered user.
Just to let you know, St.
Just to let you know, St. Sebastian's RC Church offers a breakfast program every weekday morning and I think The Stop also offers something or may be willing to offer something. Why can't the schools (Perth and St. Luigi) help out as well? As for the name I am totally against anything that includes Junction, Triangle or Wedge. I agree that the Rail has negative undertones. We have to find a name that is upbeat and positive. Something that brings us together. I will get back to you on that.
Thanks for the information
Thanks for the information about the breakfast programs. It's good to know that there are organizations making an effort already.
Great to hear your feedback on neighbourhood name ideas as well. I agree we need something that is upbeat, postive and brings us together. Looking forward to hearing your suggestions!
Not these names no way!
In the interest of debate and humor I offer these names that we DO NOT want to end up with:
Entrails Trails
Solvent Green
Falus Village
Sol Ways
Metro Links
Value Village Village
Just throwing it out there
I was thinking we're like "The Wedge" or "The Triangle"; or because of the old Lansdowne factory, perhaps "Builder Block". We're also boxed in by the various main rail routes of the city, right up in the north west corner: It could be the "North-West Triangle" or "The Inner Corner". Or even "Innerton".
Has anyone noticed on Google Maps that our area is labeled "Silverthorn"? Anyone know where that came from?
The Triangle
Angus, I like The Triangle. Plain and simple. Short. Somewhat distinctive, though there are other triangles. Also links back to the "old" name, the Junction Triangle, but separates us from the Junction. I like it a lot....
Silverthorn
There's a "Silverthorn" neighbourhood north of us in the Keele and Eglinton area. A bit on Wikipedia here.
Silverthorn Ave. runs north from the Old Weston Rd. and St. Clair area up to Eglinton. So kind of far north of our neighbourhood.
Google Maps has really bad data for our area. Missing streets, incorrect rail crossings, incorrect laneways.... It used to be better, but they changed their data source sometime in the last few months, with bad results.
Actually, when I check Google
Actually, when I check Google maps "Silverthorn" is smack in the middle of our fuzzy boundary. Does anyone have any idea of the origins of Silverthorn?
http://www.google.ca/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=43.661228,-79.450936&spn=0.014747,0...
"Silverthorn" is a Google map mistake
"Silverthorn" is a Google map mistake that we have tried to correct by emailing the map service that Google uses.
not so usual
why does everything in Toronto have to be a ville, village, town, gardens, or a little(insert country)..
I think there is a great opportunity here to be creative, fun, edgy... some of my suggestions
SOJU (South Junction pronounced SO-HU)
SOJUTA (stands for South Junction Triangle Area pronounced SO-HU-TA)
TRISODA (Triangle south of Davenport)
DABLOTRAX (DAvenport to the north, BLOor to the south and TRAcks on either side)
JUNCTRAX
COOLTRAX
DUNDAVENBLOOMINGTON
JUNCTIA
RAILTRAX