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Got a great suggestion for a neighbourhood name? Post it here!What do you call our neighbourhood? How do others in the city refer to it? What is your preference for an "official" neighbourhood name, and why? This is the spot to leave your answers to these and any other questions that come to mind about names for our community. Check back regularly to see if others have posted opinions about your suggestions, and feel free to post your thoughts about theirs. Whether you’re new to the neighbourhood, a seasoned resident, or somewhere in between, your ideas count.
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From the Library Suggestion Box
Keith Koch submitted a name idea through the library suggestion box at the Perth/Dupont location of the Toronto Public Library at 1589 Dupont Street. Keith likes the name Junction Triangle.
The Obvious?
The official opening of the West Toronto Railpath on Friday makes me wonder if it doesn't provide the obvious name for our neighbourhood? "The Railpath" is the most prominent feature in the neighbourhood now. It points to our past and our future (especially if Metrolinx has its way). The name is unique, short and concise. It is not a name extension of an existing neighbourhood so we can avoid any confusion or historical inaccuracies.
Yes but
Railpath will have a stage 2 that will go to Sudbury Street down at King. There is also fanciful talk of a stage 3 heading north up to Mount Dennis. So in the end the Railpath wont be our alone. Not sure that Railpath is a name that works but nobody will confuse it with Bridle Path.
Size Doesn't Matter
The extension of the Railpath could be some years off. The City of Toronto budget cuts and a freeze on any new initiatives could/will delay plans for quite awhile.
I also don't see a connection between the eventual expansion of the Park and taking our neighbourhood name from it. Bloor Street stretches for miles, yet there is still a neighbourhood called (dare I say it) Bloor West Village.
Railpath West?
Railpath West?
Railpath West Village.
Railpath West Village.
81 Days or 11 1/2 Weeks
The name ideas have been rolling in since May. We are close to 200 suggestions and they have all been great! Some have come from children, many from adults and more than a few with a sense of humour, but all the name suggestions have served a purpose - getting people talking about the neighbourhood.
There is still lots of time (81 days/11 1/2 weeks) for more ideas and discussion. The formal consultation period runs until Thursday, January 14th. If you have a name idea or want to make a comment about something you have read here, we hope that you will join the discussion.
Shedden Village
I'd like to throw the name Shedden Village into the mix. I think it has been put in before. What I like about it is it really reflects the history of the area. It also sound like a destination where South Junction Triangle, Triangle Gardens, The Triangle, etc. seem like geographical points. They don't for lack of a better term sound warm and inviting.
High Park. The Annex. Parkdale. Bloor West Village. They all say something about the community and it's history. The Shedden Farm is where this area grew from. To me, it's the most appropriate name.
Thoughts?
Shedden Something?
I don't think many people knew about the origins of the neighbourhood as the former Shedden family farm until this project began. There were also some businesses in the area operated by people named Shedden over the years including a hardware store on Dupont Street. Is that a strong enough connection to name the area Shedden something-or-other?
Someone mentioned here a few weeks back about the Kingsley farm north of Dupont. The original farmhouse is still there at the foot of Kingsley. How much of the neighbourhood was part of the former farm is unknown.
Urban growth seems to have involved the loss of farm land and the development of neighbourhoods for more than a hundred years. Are there other people from the area's past that warrant recognition more than a family that called the land their own for awhile?
Please no Villages
We are not a village. Every 10 feet there is an area calling itself a village. We can come up with something better than that.
I agree with Scott
I have to agree with Scott, not only about using anything with the name Village, but some of the names people are been coming up with. If it was fuzzy before, it's even more fuzzer now. There are many people that have not written on fuzzy's Discussion Forum or have come out to the fuzzy meetings, who are either against changing the excisting name, of the Junction Triangle or liken the names that been suggested. Many say that the names suggested does not represent or reflect the community or it's history, one that I heard, that many hate is the Wedge. Some don't care about the name of the community or don't even understand, because of the language. Even my 15 yr old and his friends made comments about the names suggestion, that they read on the Rail Path, many said they didn't like them and these are the next generation of this community. Mind you, my very own son dosen't even like the name Juntion Triangle. I taught him to speak his own mind and he dosen't have to chose or like what his father or mother likes. Brings me to the last point, we heard from kids from the boys and girls club, which are like 14 yrs and under. It might be a good idea to hear from the 15-19 yr olds. Jack
I Agree, Anything But Village
I agree, there are way too many villages in this town! We can choose a name from the past or something entirely new, but it would be completely self-defeating to choose anything with the word "Village." We have an opportunity to create a unique identity, let's not squander the chance with something so lame as _______Village!
Area name change
Hi there Residents,
I have chatted with a bunch of residents and here are some suggestions we came up with.
Torontowood
HighPark East
Bloor Gardens
Triangle Gardens
Bloorway Village
Triangleville
Bloorville
Triangle Village
The Triangle
Social Village
Giggling at the graffiti
So I say,
Thank you for the chalking,
On the path I'm walk'in.
Thanks for bewildered stares and gawking...
This morning I noticed some funny additions and comments on the pathway. Of course I didn't take notes and they are being washed away now, so you'll have to take my word for it some of them were really funny. Now the rain is gently washing our path. Once again we have a clean slate. A chance to clear our thoughts and consider how we would like to celebrate our community.
YouTube Video
The YouTube video featured in the News Section really makes me laugh http://www.fuzzyboundaries.ca/node/68 Not sure if it is the original nature of the list (chalked on the Railpath) or the music, but the ride along the trail is just an awesome way to view all the name suggestions!
brilliant video
of the Railpath chalking! And the song accompanying it is great too. I'd like to add a name suggestion on honour of that: The Humble Neighbourhood.
Make Carmen the librarian wish come true
Hi all,
Carmen the librarian and fellow CPLC member, who has looked after our kids for years, along with her dedicated colleagues, have one wish. So she has asked me to spread the word and to make some noise about her one wish, and that is to have the Perth Dupont Library renovated. Personally I think the library has seen it's days and has out grown it's self and is busting at the seems. Many library across Toronto has gotten a renow job, time for our community library to get the same. This has been a safe place for the children and adults to go, after school or on the weekend. Read a book or go on the computer. Lets support Carmen and her colleagues, by passing this email on. Thanks Jack
Famous Fuzzies
A few weeks ago there was some discussion about famous people living in the neighbourhood. We will be honouring one of those residents with a special showing of the NFB documentary The Travellers on Thursday, November 12 at 6:45 p.m. at the Perth/Dupont location of the Toronto Public Library (1589 Dupont Street). If you are curious to know who that resident might be, come on out and meet the former group member and folk singer in person. Seating is limited, so come early!
and a crusader too
That mystery resident was also a leader in the community when things were bad.
Two Suggestions
Speaking with my friends in the area, here are our two suggestions:
- Lower Junction
- Dundas West Fortress
One Reply
Those are interesting suggestions amcintosh. What made you think of "Lower" Junction. Is it a geographical distinction or something else? Are you thinking the rail tracks create a "fortress-like barrier" to the neighbourhood? I am interested to know what led you to suggest these names.
The Elephant in the hood
I was doing some research and the word TRUNK has not had much in any talk here.
I say that as the Grand Trunk went past on the west rail corridor straight down the middle.
I am not suggesting "The Trunk" "Grand Trunk"(although I do like it because it could mean many things) but just saying that it is another rail related word from our past and future and that might lead to a combination or a new word altogether.
The Elephant in the hood
I was doing some research and the word TRUNK has not had much in any talk here.
I say that as the Grand Trunk went past on the west rail corridor straight down the middle.
I am not suggesting "The Trunk" "Grand Trunk"(although I do like it because it could mean many things) but just saying that it is another rail related word from our past and future and that might lead to a combination or a new word altogether.
From the Library Suggestion Box
Mrs. S. Patel submitted an idea through the library suggestion box at the Perth/Dupont location of the Toronto Public Library (1589 Dupont). Mrs. Patel likes the name Dupontville.
Stations
I like the simplicity of it, but I've got to object to Dupont Station because that's already a place.
How about Wallace Station? Didn't there used to be a station there named that?
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Stations
I don't think there was ever a Wallace Station, though I'd love to hear about it if here was. "Wallace Station Lofts" appears to be the made-up commercial name for the converted factory condo next to the pedestrian bridge.
There has been a train station at Bloor St. dating back to at least 1887. Don't think there was anything at Wallace.
I believe there was a Wallace
I believe there was a Wallace Station. Remember that at least 4 different rail companies had lines along there.
Not Sure About Wallace Station
Several factors lead me to believe that there was no Wallace Station. The 1887 Globe and Mail ad showing lots for sale indicates that the area was farmland until the Toronto Land Corporation purchased the land from the Shedden family. The sale of lots coincided with the opening of the Bloor Station in the same year.
From material I have read, other stations opened at Dundas and Dupont in 1884 serving the Junction and Carlton Village.
Also an 1890-something photo from the City Archives shows the Wallace Street bridge, but no sign of any station. If there was a station at Wallace, it must have had a short lifespan because the first train lines through the area were put down in 1856. Would such a building have a lifespan of 30 years or less?
To really understand the origins of the area, we need to know more about the railways. A railway historian might be useful at this stage. Anyone have any suggestions?
lost the link
I recall reading about a station at Wallace but it may have been a workers station and not for the general public. There was a great west toronto rail site that I lost the link for and have been searching for. Will let you know.
Another Suggestion
Marion Bridge sent us an e-mail with a name suggestion. Marion thinks the neighbourhood should be called "The Adjunct."
One Family Votes
We received this message today from Craig Charnock, "Here are our votes from our family, in order of preference:
1. Railside
2. The Wedge
3. The Foundary
We feel that references to the Junction and Roncesvalles, while giving some geo-context and cache, don't allow the area to stand on it's own. Thanks for the work."
Railpath Slate of Names
A complete list of neighbourhood name suggestions has been chalked on the West Toronto Railpath. The list of name ideas stretches from Dupont to Bloor and includes all 185 suggested names to date. It is a chance for the neighbourhood to see how we might "wear" a name. Perhaps you'll see something you like or maybe it will spark an idea. If you have a comment or suggestion, we would like to hear from you.
Railpath Slate of Names
This is perhaps the most awesome community brainstorm idea I have ever seen. A linear brainstorm on my way into work. Compliments on your creativity!
Fuzzy Boundaries Debuts on YouTube
Our over-worked web guy strapped a video camera to his bicycle yesterday and filmed his ride on the Railpath where all the name suggestions (to date) have been written along the trail. His video has been set to music and posted on YouTube. You can check out the video and all the name ideas in Vic's video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51cwNrpsNkU
Naming Participants
Got an e-mail message from Terri saying "Just wanted to pass on a little tidbit, I have a little hobby of searching houses on MLS (I think I missed my calling) and recently I have noticed one agent advertising a house on Campbell in the 'Wallace Film District' and another one advertising a house on Perth in the 'trendy East Junction.' Just goes to show you who will name the neighbourhood if the community doesn't!"
1984 Star article about the neighbourhood
I was just re-reading a long 1984 Toronto Star article about residents fighting pollution in the "Junction Triangle." I remembered this article because a friend of mine from university worked on it.
The report is interesting from the point of view of the discussion about a neighbourhood name. While I still like the name "Junction Triangle" the article does support those who think the name is too easily confused with the Junction.
The headline on the Star's frontpage reads: "Toronto must balance industry and health in Junction Triangle" and the article mentions a "Junction Triangle Watchdog committee."
However, here's what I found both interesting and dispiriting: the reporters use the names "Junction Triangle" and "Junction" interchangeably. To judge by this article, it would appear that even in the 80s there was confusion between the two neighbourhoods because of the similarity in names.
If nothing else, the Fuzzy Boundaries project has forced to me to think more about the neighbourhood and its history.
1984 article
Michael,
Thanks for mentioning that article and sending it along. It's definitely interesting to see them use the name "Junction" and "Junction Triangle" interchangeably.
For anyone else who's interested in reading it, you can download it from the Toronto Star via the Toronto Public Library's website. You need your library card though (you have one, right??).
Quick directions on how to find it:
Star Story
Can you post that ?
Thanksgiving Day Tally
It's Thanksgiving and here is the list of all the names suggested since Labour Day:
Wallace Railside Crossing
Wallace Junction Triangle
South Junction Triangle
Fuzzy Boundaries
The Little Junction
The Pathway
Railside
Junction Triangle
Royce Village
Wallace Crossing
Wallace Railside Village
The Wedge
Royce
Nestleville Diamond
West Junction Diamond
Roncy Diamond
WestEdge
W.Edge
Dupont Station
Fuzzy Triangle
The Foundry
Cooper's Crossing
Isoceles Village
Scaletown
Scalene Triangle
Kingsley Farms
The Works
Wallace-Emerson
Sheddenville
Gizmoville
Gizmotown
Gizmo Triangle
Gizmo Station
Gizmo Crossing
Harmony Crossing
Dalton Village
See something you like? Got an idea or want to comment on something you read here? We want to hear from you too.
Just a Reminder
You forgot Lindsey's suggestion of Cooper's Station in the Thanksgiving Day Tally.
Dalton Village
The sham process that led the Provincial Environment Minister to sign-off on a deal that mandates the purchase of equipment using technology that doesn't exist makes me think we should call Captain Kirk and get a couple of transporters too.
Metrolinx has a license to develop a ten-fold increase in diesel trains on the Dundas-Georgetown corridor and wants to elevate the Newmarket tracks west of Lansdowne on a wall from Bloor to Davenport.
The Premier has an opportunity to live up to his green credo. He can be famous or he can be infamous, but our neighbourhood would always know the transformative figure that made us Dalton Village.
Built it right the first time, go electric now!
All Gizmo
If we are going to put Gizmo ideas out there for consideration, we can't overlook Gizmo Crossing! At first blush, it's a close second to my personal favourite Harmony Crossing.
There have been some famous
There have been some famous people who have lived or still live in the area. One resident was part of the band The Travelers and they wrote the song This Land is Your Land. Also, the country singer Tommy Common once lived in the area. There was a woman who wasn't famous but her generosity was. She babysat for many children in the area and continued to do so after being diagnosed with cancer and had to go for treatments. She didn't take much from anyone but gave so much. Unfortunately, this lovely woman lost her battle with cancer some time ago but wouldn't it be lovely for her memory to live on? Her name was Donna Smith.
The Travellers
I wonder which band member lived in the neighbourhood? They have an interesting bio in the Canadian Encyclopedia http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=U1ARTU0....
Apparently they were responsible for penning a very popular Canadian version of This Land Is Your Land at the urging of Pete Seger in the 1960s.
Notable?
Katie, that's a nice story about Donna Smith. Interesting the things this project is unearthing!
I heard that OPP Commissioner Julian Fantino lived on Perth Avenue at one time, but I'm not sure he qualifies as famous or infamous.
I choose Infamous
Are you serious? Thats depressing. At least Jane Farrow lived on Perth too to balance it out.
Another Suggestion
Lindsay Satterthwaite sent us an e-mail with a name idea. Lindsay thinks the neighbourhood should be called "Cooper's Station."
If you have a name idea or want to make comment, you can post it here on the site, or send us an e-mail and we'll post it for you. You can also make a suggestion using the Suggestion Box just inside the door at the Perth/Dupont branch of the Toronto Public Library.
What's in a name?
without waxing 'Shakespearian', i think it is important to think about the reason we name things. The name should connote a link to one's emotional connection to 'place'. If possible it should contain a 'pointer' to guide one to the probable location being referred to, and perhaps a touch of humour to soften any blatency involved with the whole concept of 'being there'.
And on another note, we must realize that most commonly names are given by parents to their children. And as a parent, who is not fiercely proud of those names? And as a child, who has never had regrets over having been named such an 'uncool' name by your parents?
Let's find a name that all the neighbourhood can like and bond to, not just cling to a vague (fuzzy) past mistake.
more what's in a name
Interesting -- I was thinking just recently about how all this might connect to naming children. Having gone through that myself, I remember spending hours with my spouse trying to find just the right one. And then realizing, when the child arrived, that she might have been named Gizmo Teapot and we would still adore her. Of course she might not have liked it so much. But what's in a name is a multi-layered question.
BZJXXLLWCP
“Names are not always what they seem. The common Welsh name BZJXXLLWCP is pronounced Jackson.”
- Mark Twain quotes